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Alice
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 Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:09 pm Post subject: VVEngine 3.0 Serv Prem. Only want a Full Comp @ 8pm period ! |
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hello there.
so similar to this chat from ages ago :
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I'm using 'File Monitoring' - 'Monitor Source and Run When File Changes Are Detected' with VVE 3.0. I also wanted a Full Compare at 8pm but not twice in the same hour, so I did this :
1) 'Run Every X Hours : 24'
2) 'Start Time : 18/01/2019 20:00'
3) '... perform full recomparison if this condition is true (optional) : hour=20 AND changes_detected_run = false'
all seems to work, ie if I make changes to the files/folders after the 20:00hrs recomparison has run and completed but still within the hour of 20:00, VVE treats these adjustments as 'Incremental' changes and does not run another full recomparison.
However what I'd really like to do in addition is ....only have one single full recomparison every day at 8pm, so not when VVE decides to run one at any other time that day/for any other reason
Is that possible ? Is the secret perhaps to add in :
'AND elapsed_days>0' ? |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Hi! I think if you add the variable scheduled_run then you can identify that single run each day.
hour=20 AND changes_detected_run = false' AND scheduled_run = true
This should work to perform a full recomparison only once at 8pm
scheduled_run True if the profile run is a time scheduled run (see "Run Every X Minutes, Run Every X Hours, Run Every X Days " in the VVEngine scheduling options)
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Alice
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| Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Ok, I changed the VVE entry '...perform full recomparision' to read :
hour=20 AND changes_detected_run=false AND scheduled_run=true
So the VVE summary is :
Schedule: Run every 24 hours, start on 08/02/2024 20:00 - Monitor source(s) and run when file changes are detected - Monitoring Level: Subfolder - Perform full recomparison if condition 'hour=20 AND changes_detected_run=false AND scheduled_run=true' is true
that seems to be working, ie no full recompares run so far today.
Many thanks for your help. |
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Alice
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| Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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So its now 8.20pm.
I'd say the full recomparisions are greatly reduced in VVE, by the actions above, but its still running some during the working day.
A very worthwhile improvement, but not 100% perfect in my scenario  |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, what's the reasons for those full comparisons during the day??
In the profile History, it should say why a full comparison was performed.... |
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Alice
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Is this what you mean :
Last Runs
| Code: | Today at 07:38:06 until 07:41:45 (3 min 39 sec) - (Changes Detected - Full Recomparison Required) - Execution canceled by user. (Full Recomparison)
Today at 07:36:51 until 07:37:53 (1 min 02 sec) - (Changes Detected) - Source folder not found. (Full Recomparison)
Today at 04:57:36 until 05:02:06 (4 min 30 sec) - (Changes Detected - Full Recomparison Required) - Successful. (Full Recomparison) (No files/folders copied or deleted)
Today at 04:52:13 until 04:57:35 (5 min 22 sec) - (Changes Detected - Full Recomparison Required) - Execution canceled by user. (Full Recomparison)
Today at 04:44:38 until 04:48:08 (3 min 30 sec) - (Changes Detected - Full Recomparison Required) - Execution canceled by user. (Full Recomparison)
Today at 04:41:09 until 04:44:07 (2 min 58 sec) - (Changes Detected - Full Recomparison Required) - Execution not completed. (Full Recomparison)
Today at 03:23:33 until 04:04:56 (41 min 23 sec) - (Changes Detected) - Successful. (No files/folders copied or deleted)
Today at 01:14:05 until 01:40:44 (26 min 39 sec) - (Changes Detected - Full Recomparison Required) - Successful. |
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Alice
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| I'll take a detailed look through the Log File too and 'see what I can see' |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Hi, in the profile page in VVEngine, there should be this entry:
Detected Changes
New Changes: xxxxxx
Show Details and History...
If you click on Show Details and History... it should show the history of changes and why a full comparison is required...
thanks
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Alice
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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So I looked in the location you mentioned, this is what I found :
| Quote: | ----> Profile runs on 28/03/2024 07:41:54 until 08:03:16 (21 min 22 sec) - (Changes Detected - Full Recomparison Required) - Successful. (Full Recomparison) (No files/folders copied or deleted) - Some changes were missed, full recomparison re... (28/03/2024 08:03:16)
********** Some changes were missed, full recomparison required.
----> Profile runs on 28/03/2024 01:14:05 until 01:40:44 (26 min 39 sec) - (Changes Detected - Full Recomparison Required) - Successful. (Full Recomparison) (No files/folders copied or deleted) - Some changes were missed, full recomparison re... (28/03/2024 01:40:44)
********** Some changes were missed, full recomparison required.
----> Profile runs on 27/03/2024 20:00:00 until 20:13:38 (13 min 38 sec) - (Scheduled Run) - Successful. (Full Recomparison) (No files/folders copied or deleted) - Full recomparison condition 'hour=20 AND chang... (27/03/2024 20:13:38 )
----> Profile runs on 27/03/2024 19:42:20 until 19:58:13 (15 min 53 sec) - (Changes Detected - Full Recomparison Required) - Successful. (Full Recomparison) (No files/folders copied or deleted) - Some changes were missed, full recomparison re... (27/03/2024 19:58:13)
********** Some changes were missed, full recomparison required.
----> Profile runs on 27/03/2024 18:17:34 until 18:30:36 (13 min 02 sec) - (Changes Detected - Full Recomparison Required) - Successful. (Full Recomparison) (1 file copied) - Some changes were missed, full recomparison re... (27/03/2024 18:30:36)
********** Some changes were missed, full recomparison required. |
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Alice
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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However in the log file I think we have an answer
The Source connection is/was unstable.
My assumption is that VVE (if interrupted by a 'drop' or similar mid Profile run) then demands a 'Full Re-comparision' ?
I noticed these entries in the .log :
2024-03-27 05:02:11 : [ERROR] \\?\UNC\abc-filer\abc$\ImageDump\HALIMG\LIVE\Document\64\00\*.* : The network path was not found.
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2024-03-26 17:35:02 : [ERROR] \\?\UNC\abc-filer\abc$\ImageDump\HALIMG\LIVE\Document\23\31\*.* : The specified network name is no longer available.
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2024-03-26 16:11:13 : [ERROR] Error scanning source folder. The semaphore timeout period has expired.
but in the very next 'run' they were found. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:04 am Post subject: |
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Yes, if the connection is lost / unstable during file change monitoring, VVEngine will initiate a full recomparison as some changes might have happened and not transmitted during that time.
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