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KnightRider



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:18 pm    Post subject: VPN split tunneling with VVEngine? Reply with quote

Hi,

is it possible to use VPN split tunneling with VVEngine 2.1.2106?

I ask because i didn't get it to work. VVEngine always says that the profile isn't enabled, but it is Smile The source isn't found.
I'm using UNC path like this, not mapped drive letters:
\\?\UNC\Fileserver\Daten\Buchhaltung\Sicherungen

With disabled split tunneling it works perfectly but i don't want that the whole traffic goes through the tunnel - it slows down the computer badly.

Thanks!
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KnightRider
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, VVEngine and ViceVersa are completely transparent to the underlying network protocol (SMB, VPN, etc). They rely on the Windows Network and shares. It seems from the description of the issue that when you split the VPN, the traffic is going over to the wrong "side" and the folder is no longer found? How did you decide which network traffic is going to which side? Maybe there's the issue. thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!

I have now setup a VPN tunnel with IPSec (german Fritzbox 7490).

I have now the problem that VVEngine cannot access the specified source path, ViceVersa can.

Here are the paths:
Source: \\192.168.0.100\Buchhalter-Sicherungen (This IP is the remote Server's local one)
Target: \\?\F:\Fileserver-Daten Buchhaltung-Sicherungen\ (local computer)

I've tried it with different paths:
- Mapped: \\?\Z:\
- Mapped without long paths: Z:\
- With UNC and long pathnames: \\?\UNC\192.168.0.100\Buchhalter-Sicherungen\
- Without long paths: \\192.168.0.100\Buchhalter-Sicherungen

I tested every possibility and not one worked!

All these paths works perfectly with ViceVersa! It must have to do with VVEngine.

Here is the profile:

Folders
- Source: "\\192.168.0.100\Buchhalter-Sicherungen\"
- Target: "\\?\F:\Fileserver-Daten Buchhaltung-Sicherungen\"
- Include Subfolders: No
- Exclude system files
- Exclude files created or modified more than 14 day(s) ago
Comparison
- Comparison Type: Size and Timestamp
- Ignore 2 seconds difference
- Ignore Timestamp
- Ignore Size
Execution
- Method: Replication (Update Target)
- No overwrite / read-only / error confirmations
- Log File: "F:\ViceVersa-Logfiles\buchhalter-sicherungen.log"
- No archive for deleted/replaced source files
- No archive for deleted/replaced target files
- Copy files even if timestamp changes after initial comparison
- Try to copy files that are in use by other applications
- Copy file/folder permissions
- Retain folder created and modified timestamps when copying
- Copy files even if they have timestamp errors
- Preserve last accessed timestamp of files being copied

In VVEngine i have set up the following:
- Run Immediately As Soon As Source and Target are Accessible
- Monitor Source and Run When File Changes Are Detected

Here is a logfile extract from a profile run:

2016-03-31 16:27:06 : Profile Started.
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : ************************************************************
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : Version: ViceVersa PRO 2.5 Build 2516 64-bit (SN401) [Registered][...]
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : Command Line: "C:\Program Files\ViceVersa Pro\ViceVersa.exe"
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : System: Windows 7, (64 Bit Edition), (Media Center Edition), (x86-64 Processor) v6.1 Build:7601 Service Pack:1
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : User: HP-Server
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : Computer: Server
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Profile: c:\users\hp-server\documents\viceversa pro\buchhalter-sicherungen.fsf
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** - Folders -
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Source: "\\?\UNC\\192.168.0.100\Buchhalter-Sicherungen\"
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Target: "\\?\F:\Fileserver-Daten Buchhaltung-Sicherungen\"
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Include Subfolders: No
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Exclude system files
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Exclude files created or modified more than 14 day(s) ago
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** - Comparison Settings -
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Comparison Type: Size and Timestamp
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Ignore 2 seconds difference
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Ignore Timestamp
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Ignore Size
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** - Execution Settings -
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Method: Replication (Update Target)
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** No overwrite / read-only / error confirmations
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Log File: "F:\ViceVersa-Logfiles\buchhalter-sicherungen.log"
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** No archive for deleted/replaced source files
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** No archive for deleted/replaced target files
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Network friendly folder scanning
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Copy files even if timestamp changes after initial comparison
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Try to copy files that are in use by other applications
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Copy file/folder permissions
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Retain folder created and modified timestamps when copying
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Copy files even if they have timestamp errors
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : **** Preserve last accessed timestamp of files being copied
2016-03-31 16:27:06 : [ERROR] Source: folder "\\?\UNC\\192.168.0.100\Buchhalter-Sicherungen\" not found. The specified path is invalid.
2016-03-31 16:27:10 : [ERROR] No item selected.
2016-03-31 16:27:26 :
2016-03-31 16:27:26 : -


VVEngine is running as a service, i have the newest builds from both programs


Again: ViceVersa has no problems, here is an extract from the logfile:

2016-03-31 16:39:38 : Profile Started.
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : ************************************************************
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : Version: ViceVersa PRO 2.5 Build 2516 64-bit (SN401) [Registered][...]
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : Command Line: "C:\Program Files\ViceVersa Pro\ViceVersa.exe"
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : System: Windows 7, (64 Bit Edition), (Media Center Edition), (x86-64 Processor) v6.1 Build:7601 Service Pack:1
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : User: HP-Server
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : Computer: Server
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Profile: c:\users\hp-server\documents\viceversa pro\buchhalter-sicherungen.fsf
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** - Folders -
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Source: "\\192.168.0.100\Buchhalter-Sicherungen\"
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Target: "\\?\F:\Fileserver-Daten Buchhaltung-Sicherungen\"
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Include Subfolders: No
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Exclude system files
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Exclude files created or modified more than 14 day(s) ago
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** - Comparison Settings -
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Comparison Type: Size and Timestamp
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Ignore 2 seconds difference
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Ignore Timestamp
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Ignore Size
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** - Execution Settings -
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Method: Replication (Update Target)
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** No overwrite / read-only / error confirmations
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Log File: "F:\ViceVersa-Logfiles\buchhalter-sicherungen.log"
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** No archive for deleted/replaced source files
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** No archive for deleted/replaced target files
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Copy files even if timestamp changes after initial comparison
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Try to copy files that are in use by other applications
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Copy file/folder permissions
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Retain folder created and modified timestamps when copying
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Copy files even if they have timestamp errors
2016-03-31 16:39:38 : **** Preserve last accessed timestamp of files being copied
2016-03-31 16:39:40 : Checking source \\192.168.0.100\Buchhalter-Sicherungen\ ...
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : Total found: 300
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : Checking target \\?\F:\Fileserver-Daten Buchhaltung-Sicherungen\ ...
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : Total found: 294
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : Comparing ...
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : Comparing done.
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : - Status Summary -
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : - Total Files - Source: 300 (8,19GB) - Target: 294 (7,78GB)
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : - Excluded Files - Source: 188 (4,14GB) - Target: 188 (4,14GB)
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : - Matched Files - Source: 106 (3,79GB) - Target: 106 (3,64GB)
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : - Single Files - Source: 6 (267,80MB) - Target: 0 (0)
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : - Newer Files - Source: 0 (0) - Target: 0 (0)
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : - Older Files - Source: 0 (0) - Target: 0 (0)
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : - Total Subfolders - Source: 0 - Target: 0
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : - Excluded Subfolders - Source: 0 - Target: 0
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : - Matched Subfolders - Source: 0 - Target: 0
2016-03-31 16:39:43 : - Single Subfolders - Source: 0 - Target: 0


What can it be? Bug?

Thanks!
Kind regards
KnightRider

P.S. If you want i can send you screenshots or a little AVI that demonstrats the error Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, ViceVersa runs as a standard admin (e.g. not elevated), while VVEngine runs as elevated admin.

Did you setup VVEngine to run as a service or normal start-up program?

If you right-click on ViceVersa and select "Run As Administrator" are you then able to access the source?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Quote:
Did you setup VVEngine to run as a service or normal start-up program?


VVEngine runs as a service.

Quote:
f you right-click on ViceVersa and select "Run As Administrator" are you then able to access the source?


Yes.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks , the VVEngine service, under which account? Does the account have all the rights to login as batch, network, etc. thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
VVEngine runs under an Administrator-account with full access.and rights.

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KnightRider



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

i decided to unistall VVEngine as a service and run it as a normal program.

Now it works perfectly!

Thanks.
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