Source Timestamp issues

[CarlinSmith]

I recently installed a new workstation at home running Windows XP X64 edition and am noticing a very strange behavior with the source file timestamps using a Backup (Mirror) Execution strategy.

Essentially Vice Versa Pro 2 thinks that the source files are all dated 2/1/1982 and therefore believes they are always out of sync with the remote destination files. What is interesting is that if I change execution methods then Vice Versa Pro shows the correct timestamps. The issue appears to be only with the Backup method.

Relavent facts:

Source Machine:
Vice Versa Pro Build 2009
Windows XP X64 on a RAID 0 SATA array with 2 250GB drives

Destination Host:
Mac Mini running OSX 10.4 connected via a SMB share

I have been running this configuration for over a year without any issues.

Thanks
Carlin Smith
carlin.smith@gmail.com

[TGRMN Software]

Can you please post the profile file .fsf ? The fsf file is a text file and you can copy and paste the content here. Please also indicate which folder is the MAC. thanks
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[CarlinSmith]

[Settings]
; ******* Source
Source Folder=d:\
; ******* Target
Target Folder=\\192.168.0.200\crsmith\Data Backups\
; ******* values for Lock Source: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Lock Source=1
; ******* values for Lock Target: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Lock Target=0
; ******* values for Continue even if sources/targets do not exist: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Continue even if sources/targets do not exist=0
; ******* values for Create sources/targets that do not exist: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Create sources/targets that do not exist=1
; *******
Include Subfolders Flags=1
; ******* values for Comparison Type: (0=Size and Timestamp) (1=CRC) (2=Both)
Comparison Type=0
; ******* values for Ignore 2 seconds difference: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Ignore 2 seconds difference=1
; ******* values for Ignore any second difference: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Ignore any second difference=0
; ******* values for Ignore 1 hour difference: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Ignore 1 hour difference=0
CRC Chunk Size in Bytes=0
; ******* values for Ignore File Size: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Ignore File Size=0
; ******* values for Ignore Timestamp: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Ignore Timestamp=0
; ******* values for Execution Method: (0= ) (1=Synchronization) (2=Backup (Mirror Source to Target)) (3=Replication (Augment Target)) (4=Replication (Refresh Target)) (5=Replication (Update Target)) (6=Consolidation)
Execution Method=2
; ******* values for UnatSync: (0=No) (1=Yes)
UnatSync=1
Copy File Permissions=0
Copy File/Folder Permissions=1
Copy File/Folder Auditing=0
Copy File/Folder Owner=0
Do Not Copy File/Folder Data Streams=0
Use Volume Shadow Copy=0
; ******* values for Use Volume Shadow Copy For: (0=Source) (1=Target) (2=Both)
Use Volume Shadow Copy For=0
; ******* values for No empty source/target check: (0=No) (1=Yes)
No empty source/target check=0
; ******* values for Replace newer target files with older source files (backup only): (0=No) (1=Yes)
Replace newer target files with older source files (backup only)=0
Speed=100
Copy Buffer=32768
Flush Buffer=0
; ******* Log File
Log File=
; ******* values for Empty Log: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Empty Log=0
Log File Size=0
; ******* values for Log Only Summary and Exceptions: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Log Only Summary and Exceptions=0
; ******* values for Monitor Conflicts: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Monitor Conflicts=0
; ******* Sync Tracking Database
Sync Tracking Database=C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\ViceVersa PRO 2\vvdb4.tdb
Sync Conflicts=0
; ******* values for SCT: (0=No) (1=Yes)
SCT=0
; ******* values for NSC: (0=No) (1=Yes)
NSC=1
Source-Target Offset=0
; ******* values for Try Copy In Use Files: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Try Copy In Use Files=0
; ******* values for Always Verify CRC: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Always Verify CRC=0
; ******* values for Priority Class: (0=Default) (1=Idle (recommended)) (2=Low) (3=Below Normal) (4=Normal) (5=Above Normal) (6=High) (7=Realtime)
Priority Class=1
; ******* values for Limit Bandwidth: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Limit Bandwidth=0
Bandwidth Value=5
; ******* values for Bandwidth Unit: (0=KB/Sec) (1=MB/Sec)
Bandwidth Unit=1
; ******* values for Scripts Before: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Scripts Before=0
; ******* values for Scripts After: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Scripts After=0
; ******* Source Archive
Source Archive Folder=
; ******* Target Archive
Target Archive Folder=
; ******* values for Smart Archive: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Smart Archive=0
; ******* values for Archive Conflicts Only: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Archive Conflicts Only=0
Num. Copies=0
Remove Days=0
Append Path=0
Max Archive Size=0
DES=0
; *******
ComEnc String=
[Filters]
; ******* values for Exclude Hidden Files: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Exclude Hidden Files=0
; ******* values for Exclude System Files: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Exclude System Files=0
; ******* values for Exclude Read-Only Files: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Exclude Read-Only Files=0
; *******
Exclude After Date=
; *******
Exclude Before Date=
Exclude Days Ago=0
Exclude Greater than bytes=0
Exclude Smaller than bytes=0
Num. of Filters=0
[FiltersDirs]
Num. of Filters=6
Filter 0=Exclude
Filter 1=D:\Browser Caches\
Filter 2=
Filter 3=Exclude
Filter 4=D:\Temp\
Filter 5=
[ArchiveFilters]
Num. of Filters=0
[Subfolder Filters]
; ******* values for Exclude Hidden Subfolders: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Exclude Hidden Subfolders=1
; ******* values for Exclude System Subfolders: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Exclude System Subfolders=1
; ******* values for Exclude Read-Only Subfolders: (0=No) (1=Yes)
Exclude Read-Only Subfolders=0
[ViceVersa Profile - File Version 4.0.0]

[pbreathn]

I am having the same problem, except Backup only puts the 1982 on some source files, then the program says that the source files are older than the target files. However, a couple of random checks seems to indicate that Vice Versa copied over the files anyway.

I am not a techie so don't ask me any complicated questions.

[TGRMN Software]

CarlinSmith - does the log reports any errors or warnings for these files with 1982 timestamp? you can setup a log file in the profile settings, thanks - if you can please post the log
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[CarlinSmith]

2006-02-09 08:38:00 :
2006-02-09 08:38:00 : -
2006-02-09 08:38:00 : ************************************************************
2006-02-09 08:38:00 : Profile Started.
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : ************************************************************
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : Command Line: "C:\Program Files (x86)\ViceVersa Pro 2\ViceVersa.exe"
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : System: Windows XP (Professional), (Terminal Services in Remote Admin Mode), (Multiprocessor Free), (x86-64 Processor) v5.2 Build:3790 Service Pack:1 - Emulated OS: Windows XP (Professional), (Terminal Services in Remote Admin Mode), (Multiprocessor Free), (x86-32 Processor) v5.2 Build:3790 Service Pack:1
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : User: Crsmith
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : Computer: atilla
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Profile: C:\Program Files (x86)\ViceVersa Pro 2\Data Backup to Mac Mini.fsf
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** - Folders -
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Source: "d:\" (Locked)
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Target: "\\192.168.0.200\crsmith\Data Backups\"
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Include Subfolders: Yes
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Create sources/targets that do not exist
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Exclude subfolders: "D:\Browser Caches\"
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Exclude subfolders: "D:\Temp\"
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Exclude hidden subfolders
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Exclude system subfolders
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** - Comparison Settings -
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Comparison Type: Size and Timestamp
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Ignore 2 seconds difference
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** - Execution Settings -
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Method: Backup (Mirror Source to Target)
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** No overwrite / read-only / error confirmations
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Tracking Database: "C:\Program Files (x86)\ViceVersa Pro 2\DataBackup.tdb"
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Log File: "C:\Program Files (x86)\ViceVersa Pro 2\Data Backup to Mac Mini.log" (max 1000 KB)
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Log only summary and errors
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** No archive for deleted/replaced source files
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** No archive for deleted/replaced target files
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : **** Copy directly to destination file (do not use a temporary file)
2006-02-09 08:38:01 : Checking source d:\ ...
2006-02-09 08:38:02 : Checking target \\192.168.0.200\crsmith\Data Backups\ ...
2006-02-09 08:38:25 : Comparing ...
2006-02-09 08:38:26 : Checking tracking database...
2006-02-09 08:38:26 : Comparing done.
2006-02-09 08:38:27 : - Status Summary -
2006-02-09 08:38:27 : - Total Files - Source: 32,897 (50.20GB) - Target: 32,898 (50.20GB)
2006-02-09 08:38:27 : - Excluded Files - Source: 0 (0) - Target: 1 (29.22KB)
2006-02-09 08:38:27 : - Matched Files - Source: 11,874 (36.41GB) - Target: 11,874 (36.41GB)
2006-02-09 08:38:27 : - Single Files - Source: 0 (0) - Target: 0 (0)
2006-02-09 08:38:27 : -- Added Files (Since Last Execution)- Source: 0 (0) - Target: 1 (29.22KB)
2006-02-09 08:38:27 : -- Removed Files (Since Last Execution) - Source: 0 (0) - Target: 0 (0)
2006-02-09 08:38:27 : - Newer Files - Source: 0 (0) - Target: 21,023 (13.79GB)
2006-02-09 08:38:27 : - Older Files - Source: 21,023 (13.79GB) - Target: 0 (0)
2006-02-09 08:38:27 : -- Conflict Files - Source: 0 (0) - Target: 0 (0)
2006-02-09 08:38:27 : - Total Subfolders - Source: 2,093 - Target: 2,088
2006-02-09 08:38:27 : - Excluded Subfolders - Source: 6 - Target: 1
2006-02-09 08:38:27 : - Matched Subfolders - Source: 2,087 - Target: 2,087
2006-02-09 08:38:27 : - Single Subfolders - Source: 0 - Target: 0
2006-02-09 08:38:29 : No files/folders need to be copied/deleted.
2006-02-09 08:38:29 : Some files are present both in source and in target but are newer in target.
2006-02-09 08:38:29 : If you want to overwrite these files with older source files while backing up,
2006-02-09 08:38:29 : use the option 'Replace newer target files with older source files'

[TGRMN Software]

Thanks, can you please post the log also showing a copy operation having the issue you reported?
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[CarlinSmith]

2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** Exclude subfolders: "D:\Browser Caches\"
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** Exclude subfolders: "D:\Temp\"
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** Exclude hidden subfolders
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** Exclude system subfolders
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** - Comparison Settings -
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** Comparison Type: Size and Timestamp
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** Ignore 2 seconds difference
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** - Execution Settings -
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** Method: Backup (Mirror Source to Target)
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** No overwrite / read-only / error confirmations
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** Tracking Database: "C:\Program Files (x86)\ViceVersa Pro 2\DataBackup.tdb"
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** Log File: "C:\Program Files (x86)\ViceVersa Pro 2\Data Backup to Mac Mini.log" (max 1000 KB)
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** Log only summary and errors
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** No archive for deleted/replaced source files
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** No archive for deleted/replaced target files
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : **** Copy directly to destination file (do not use a temporary file)
2006-02-10 12:31:21 : Checking source d:\ ...
2006-02-10 12:31:23 : Checking target \\192.168.0.200\crsmith\Data Backups\ ...
2006-02-10 12:31:51 : Comparing ...
2006-02-10 12:31:52 : Checking tracking database...
2006-02-10 12:31:53 : Comparing done.
2006-02-10 12:31:53 : - Status Summary -
2006-02-10 12:31:53 : - Total Files - Source: 34,032 (50.15GB) - Target: 34,007 (50.13GB)
2006-02-10 12:31:53 : - Excluded Files - Source: 21 (19.86KB) - Target: 1 (29.22KB)
2006-02-10 12:31:53 : - Matched Files - Source: 12,980 (36.32GB) - Target: 12,980 (36.32GB)
2006-02-10 12:31:53 : - Single Files - Source: 6 (26.41MB) - Target: 1 (6.99MB)
2006-02-10 12:31:53 : -- Added Files (Since Last Execution)- Source: 6 (26.41MB) - Target: 1 (29.22KB)
2006-02-10 12:31:53 : -- Removed Files (Since Last Execution) - Source: 1 (6.99MB) - Target: 21 (19.86KB)
2006-02-10 12:31:53 : - Newer Files - Source: 2 (8.96MB) - Target: 21,023 (13.79GB)
2006-02-10 12:31:53 : - Older Files - Source: 21,023 (13.79GB) - Target: 2 (8.96MB)
2006-02-10 12:31:53 : -- Conflict Files - Source: 0 (0) - Target: 0 (0)
2006-02-10 12:31:53 : - Total Subfolders - Source: 2,393 - Target: 2,368
2006-02-10 12:31:53 : - Excluded Subfolders - Source: 27 - Target: 2
2006-02-10 12:31:53 : - Matched Subfolders - Source: 2,366 - Target: 2,366
2006-02-10 12:31:53 : - Single Subfolders - Source: 0 - Target: 0
2006-02-10 12:32:23 :
2006-02-10 12:32:23 : ---- Start Execution ----
2006-02-10 12:32:23 : ---- Backup (Mirror Source to Target) (Source: d:\ Target: \\192.168.0.200\crsmith\Data Backups\) ----
2006-02-10 12:32:23 : ---- Start deleting ----
2006-02-10 12:32:23 : -- Deleting from target ...
2006-02-10 12:32:24 : -- Done: 1 (6.99MB) Err: 0 (0) Skipped: 0 (0) Tot: 1 (6.99MB) --
2006-02-10 12:32:24 : -- Objects Deleted per Second: 1.00 -- Elapsed Time: 0 sec
2006-02-10 12:32:24 : Re-comparing ...
2006-02-10 12:32:24 : ---- Deleting finished ----
2006-02-10 12:32:24 : ---- Start copying ----
2006-02-10 12:32:24 : -- Copying to target...
2006-02-10 12:32:28 : -- Done: 8 (35.37MB) Err: 0 (0) Skipped: 0 (0) Tot: 8 (35.37MB) --
2006-02-10 12:32:28 : -- Average Transfer Rate: 10.34MB/Sec -- Elapsed Time: 3 sec
2006-02-10 12:32:28 : Re-comparing ...
2006-02-10 12:32:28 : Updating tracking database...
2006-02-10 12:32:29 : ---- Copying finished ----
2006-02-10 12:32:29 : [WARNING] Some files are present both in source and in target but are newer in target.
2006-02-10 12:32:29 : If you want to overwrite these files with older source files while backing up,
2006-02-10 12:32:29 : use the option 'Replace newer target files with older source files'
2006-02-10 12:32:36 : ---- End ----
2006-02-10 12:32:36 : - Execution Summary -
2006-02-10 12:32:36 : - Added Files - Source: 0 (0) - Target: 6 (26.41MB)
2006-02-10 12:32:36 : - Updated Files - Source: 0 (0) - Target: 2 (8.96MB)
2006-02-10 12:32:36 : - Deleted Files - Source: 0 (0) - Target: 1 (6.99MB)
2006-02-10 12:32:36 : - Added Subfolders - Source: 0 - Target: 0
2006-02-10 12:32:36 : - Deleted Subfolders - Source: 0 - Target: 0
2006-02-10 12:32:39 : Exit Code: 10. Backup completed with warning. Some files are present both in source and in target but are newer in target. If you want to overwrite these files, use the profile option 'Replace newer target files with older source files' [ERROR]
2006-02-10 12:32:39 : ************************************************************
2006-02-10 12:32:39 :

[CarlinSmith]

Or is this an unsolvable issue