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dougalthedog



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:56 am    Post subject: Subfolder monitoring Reply with quote

Hi,

I've recently upgraded to the new vvengine to use the subfolder monitoring feature. However, more often than not folders are requiring a full rescan. Often this happens immediately after another full rescan completes and sometimes no files or folders are copied.

What are the criteria for a full rescan to take place and can you suggest how this can be minimised?

Also if I have lots of profiles running at once, they quite often seem to fail part way through. This doesn't seem to be a network issue as other profiles using the same shares keep running. Is it possible that the number of profiles running together is causing a timeout (the link is quite slow).

Is it possible to set vvengine to queue profiles so that only one ever runs at a time?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

what's the reason given for the full update? Are you monitoring local folders or remote? Over which type of connection?

In VVEngine you can run profiles sequentially, with the option after this profile run...

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dougalthedog



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I can see no reason given either on VVengine or in the log - where would I find the reason?

I am syncing folders between the local server and another server at a remote site. The connection is ADSL with a 500kbps uplink speed.

I am not looking to run profiles based on the results of another. I have multiple folders being monitored and want to only run one profile at a time because if several run it takes hours to complete.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi , if you click on "Details..." under "Detected Changes" in the profile page, it will show a chronological list of all changes, including oveflows and associated reasons.

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I am syncing folders between the local server and another server at a remote site. The connection is ADSL with a 500kbps uplink speed.


Are you monitoring for changes in folders over ADSL or only local?

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dougalthedog



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I am using syncronisation so monitoring both locally and over ADSL.

I am seeing the message "Some changes may have been missed due to network disconnection, full update needed."

However, there are multiple profiles being monitored over the same ADSL link and not all show this error.

How does VV check for network disconnection and can this be disabled or the timeout increased?

The VPN linking the 2 sites shows an uptime of 65 hours but this message was generated 12 hours ago.

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dougalthedog



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

The problem seems to relate to the profiles which show "execution not completed".

For example at the moment, I have a profile which ran from 10:35:05 until 12:24:38 which says execution not completed. It then started a full update at 12:24:48.

At the same time, however, I have another profile which started at 11:30:32 and has been running for 1h 08m 40s uninterrupted.

These two profiles are syncing different folders on the same 2 servers over the same ADSL connection so I can't see how one can be accessible and the other not.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,
it could be that monitoring too many folders on the web simultaneously leads to network disconnection for one of them. For the profile in error, does the same happen if that is the only profile enabled?
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dougalthedog



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I will try this and let you know.

Would a change taking place whilst a profile is running cause a full rescan?

Could you answer these questions from my previous posts please:

What are the criteria for a full rescan to take place?

How does VV check for network disconnection and can this be disabled or the timeout increased?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

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Would a change taking place whilst a profile is running cause a full rescan?


No, it would be added to the change list to be processed in the next run.

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What are the criteria for a full rescan to take place?


- If the folder monitored is over the network, then network connectivity issues can cause a full update.
- Too many files since last run (e.g. more than 10k changes)
- Changes happening too fast. On the network this event can be more frequent compared to local folders (it depends on network configuration) because the changes are broadcasted over the network.

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dougalthedog



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I was hoping for some more quantitative information that I could compare with my setup, e.g. how does VV check for "connectivity issues" and how fast is too fast!

Perhaps this should be in a separate thread, but are you aware of any issues when using VVEngine to monitor and sync a shared excel worksheet? It seems to be causing the file to appear locked to Excel and prevent sharing. Disabling the relevant VVEngine profile fixes the problem.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was hoping for some more quantitative information that I could compare with my setup, e.g. how does VV check for "connectivity issues" and how fast is too fast!


There is no real quantitative information, sorry, it really depends on many variables and the bandwidth available....

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Perhaps this should be in a separate thread, but are you aware of any issues when using VVEngine to monitor and sync a shared excel worksheet? It seems to be causing the file to appear locked to Excel and prevent sharing. Disabling the relevant VVEngine profile fixes the problem.


How is the profile setup to run? Can you please let me know the VVEngine scheduling settings. Is this for Excel 2010? Please let me know the details so I will try to reproduce the issue, thanks
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