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paulkc



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It says path not available/cannot be found. Something along those lines. I can try it again if you need a more specific answer.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, this VVEngine issue was now fixed. We'll be publishing the fix with a new VVEngine build in the next couple of days. Thank you for your help.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How will I know when it is available. I haven't been able to even find a build number or version number within VV Engine. How do I identify that?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, but this release was delayed a few days. Sad

To check if a new VVEngine version is available click on "check for updates" in VVEngine (the link is at the bottom of the VVEngine home page)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new VVEngine has been released. Click on "Check for Updates..." on the VVEngine home page, thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, after installing the update, I still had some issues. Every time I tried to use a profile in VV Engine that had the \\?\ in the path name. I finally realize that if I changed the setting under the schedule for that profile: 'Schedule Run Only If File Changes Are Detected In: Source/Target.' It will not work if I check off Source but it will work if I check off Target.

Also, I cannot seem to get it to work at all with UNC path names such as \\?\192.168.100.100\FolderName
I have tried mapping drives also and it will not work either.
Either way, when I try to run the profile from within VVEngine, it tells me: 'Target folder not found.'
I have no problem browsing to that exact folder within Windows Explorer but VV does not seem to see it for some reason.
Also, the same exact profile will run with no problem if I remove the \\?\ from before the path.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

There is a difference between being able to access a remote folder and monitoring a remote folder for changes.

Being \?\\192.168.100.100\FolderName your profile target folder, if you try to monitor the target in the VVEngine scheduling settings, you may get an error. But if you do not monitor that target folder in the VVEngine scheduling, the profile should run OK.

Ok , try this:
- use \\?\UNC\192.168.100.100\FolderName instead of \\?\192.168.100.100\FolderName

If that also does not work it is probably not possible to montior 192.168.100.100\FolderName at all. You need to switch off monitoring the target in the VVEngine scheduling.

The presence of \?\\ should not make a difference.
I do not think if you change \\?\192.168.100.100\FolderName into 192.168.100.100\FolderName it would work.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never heard of actually using 'UNC' in a path name. Is that proprietary to VV? Either way, it did the trick. It seems to running fine now. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Quote:
Is that proprietary to VV?


It is an internal Windows prefix to specify UNC paths > 259 chars.

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backupwiz



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:22 am    Post subject: Still Having Problems with Long Paths Reply with quote

I am trying to check and mirror \\?\D:\PAVEL\01 TXT\ to \\?\E:\01 VICEVERSA BackUp\PAVEL\01 TXT\, but I have started getting:

Exit Code: 3. Execution completed with file copy/delete errors. [ERROR], more specifically:


2009-10-18 10:13:44 : -- Creating archive copies of target files to "E:\01 VICEVERSA BackUp\x Older Versions\" ...
2009-10-18 10:13:44 : Copying file \\?\E:\01 VICEVERSA BackUp\PAVEL\01 TXT\00 TRANSLATIONS\07 proz\00 TRANSLATIONS\Cecile Husquet\2009-10-14 AB InBev EOS 2010 Survey\TRAN\~$CLEAN TRAN BG AB InBev EOS 2010 - Bulgarian version.doc <to> E:\01 VICEVERSA BackUp\x Older Versions\E\01 VICEVERSA BackUp\PAVEL\01 TXT\00 TRANSLATIONS\07 proz\00 TRANSLATIONS\Cecile Husquet\2009-10-14 AB InBev EOS 2010 Survey\TRAN\~$CLEAN TRAN BG AB InBev EOS 2010 - Bulgarian version.doc_(2009-10-18_10-13-44_DEL_T).doc.gz (162B) [Path with more than 259 characters. Can not create or replace "E:\01 VICEVERSA BackUp\x Older Versions\E\01 VICEVERSA BackUp\PAVEL\01 TXT\00 TRANSLATIONS\07 proz\00 TRANSLATIONS\Cecile Husquet\2009-10-14 AB InBev EOS 2010 Survey\TRAN\~$CLEAN TRAN BG AB InBev EOS 2010 - Bulgarian version.doc_(2009-10-18_10-13-44_DEL_T).doc.gz".] [ERROR].
2009-10-18 10:13:44 : -- Done: 0 (0) Err: 1 (162B) Skipped: 0 (0) Tot:
2009-10-18 10:13:44 : Copying file \\?\E:\01 VICEVERSA BackUp\PAVEL\01 TXT\00 TRANSLATIONS\07 proz\00 TRANSLATIONS\Cecile Husquet\2009-10-14 AB InBev EOS 2010 Survey\TRAN\UNCLEAN TRAN BG AB InBev EOS 2010 - Bulgarian version.doc <to> E:\01 VICEVERSA BackUp\x Older Versions\E\01 VICEVERSA BackUp\PAVEL\01 TXT\00 TRANSLATIONS\07 proz\00 TRANSLATIONS\Cecile Husquet\2009-10-14 AB InBev EOS 2010 Survey\TRAN\UNCLEAN TRAN BG AB InBev EOS 2010 - Bulgarian version.doc_(2009-10-18_10-13-44_OVE_T).doc.gz (390,50KB) [Path with more than 259 characters. Can not create or replace "E:\01 VICEVERSA BackUp\x Older Versions\E\01 VICEVERSA BackUp\PAVEL\01 TXT\00 TRANSLATIONS\07 proz\00 TRANSLATIONS\Cecile Husquet\2009-10-14 AB InBev EOS 2010 Survey\TRAN\UNCLEAN TRAN BG AB InBev EOS 2010 - Bulgarian version.doc_(2009-10-18_10-13-44_OVE_T).doc.gz".] [ERROR].

Please, help - the prefix was working correctly for some time - what has changed now?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello

add \\?\ to the archive folder E:\01 VICEVERSA BackUp\x Older Versions\ too.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:35 am    Post subject: Thank you! Reply with quote

That seems to have fixed the problem... Thank you so much!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:50 am    Post subject: Long filename question Reply with quote

Guys, I had some issues with long filenames in the pro version and saw this but I have a few questions.

First, can it not be an option in some checkbox so you don't have to fiddle with the \\?\ or whatever? I'm awfully stupid and this is a surefire way to screw me up.

Second, IF windows can handle whatever path/name/length I have, how come the VVpro didn't handle it? Just trying to understand how this works and finally, what's the cost to upgrade from pro to the latest version?

Thanks

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, in Windows XP and Windows 2003 you could not access any long path names unless you specified \\?\ before the name. Then we decided to have the same notation in ViceVersa as in Windows. But now, it would probably make sense to support this transparently. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:35 am    Post subject: long filepath Reply with quote

Quote:
It is quite rare to exceed 256 characters for a file path name. If that is needed, ViceVersa PRO 2 now supports long path names exceeding 256 chars. To enable this in a specific folder you will need to prefix the folder name with \\?\

Example
To allow paths longer than 256 characters in c:\folder\backup\
use \\?\c:\folder\backup\ as source (or target) in ViceVersa


Why can't it be transparent? i.e. rather than entering a prefix (etc) for over-259 character filepaths, why can't it simply be made a default for any filepath?
Sorry for repeating, I think the "transparency" been addressed above.
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